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Jake von Slatt:  dropped me

Sent at 10:28 PM on Friday

Willow Bloo:  Jake?

there you are

Jake von Slatt:  back online

Willow Bloo:  kk

Sent at 10:29 PM on Friday

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Jake von Slatt:  Never trust anything that can think for itself if you can't see where it keeps its brain.

Jack:  Funny

Jake von Slatt:  the web-trust disscussion reminded of that.  HP is full of idealized interfaces.

so is StarTrek TNG.

comic sans! Argh!

Jake von Slatt:  are you there willow?

Jack:  She dropped out a while ago I believe

Sent at 10:49 PM on Friday

Willow Bloo has joined.

Willow Bloo:  sweet!

Jake von Slatt:  got it!

Willow Bloo has left.

Willow Bloo has joined.

Jake von Slatt:  can you see the history?

Willow Bloo:  no

please forward it when everything's done

Jake von Slatt:  it's breif:

Jack Prince: Never trust anything that can think for itself if you can't see where it keeps its brain.

Jack Prince: Funny

Jack Prince: the web-trust disscussion reminded of that.  HP is full of idealized interfaces.

so is StarTrek TNG.

comic sans! argh!

Sent at 10:46 PM on Friday

Jack Prince: are you there willow?

Willow Bloo:  sweet thank you

Jack Prince:  Perception versus imagination?

or a cross between the two

Willow Bloo:  sort of

you fill in perceptions

Jack Prince:  How do we avoid this?

Willow Bloo:  ooh

Jake von Slatt:  do you want to?

Jack Prince:  Is it possible to do one hundred percent

Willow Bloo:  I'll interject when I can

for my own reference, we're at the 34:45 mark

Jake von Slatt:  doom vs. zork ?

Willow Bloo:  don't know zork

relevent to discussion?

Jake von Slatt:  a maze of twisty littla passages, all alike?

Willow Bloo:  ah

Jack Prince:  Having that helping hand all the time could make us complacent or lazy.

Jake von Slatt:  zork is text based

Sent at 10:57 PM on Friday

Jake von Slatt:  not quite what I was going for - I'm lagging the conversation.  Zork is text based - it's all fill in by imagination.

ah good!

LOL!

Sent at 10:59 PM on Friday

Jake von Slatt:  Katamari Damacy syndrome - want to roll up real things

Willow Bloo:  yes. listening to soundtrack is dangerous in the car

Jake von Slatt:  LOL

Jack Prince:  I am so lost when it comes to games. One of my downfalls.

Willow Bloo:  not a downfall

Jake von Slatt:  I don't play them but gamers are interesting people.

My dad is a big gamer

Jack Prince:  I was a controller thrower as a child. I never recovered, and it bled over into everyother game: board, card, etc.

Sent at 11:03 PM on Friday

Jake von Slatt:  actually gamers a good case studies for this - they totally immerse themselves and I'll bet that effect their view of the world when the surface again.

Jack Prince:  Books can have the same effect.

Jake von Slatt:  totally

Willow Bloo:  yes

romance novels are an experience, not good literature

Jake von Slatt:  have you read Diana Gabaldon's Outlander? is both.

Jack Prince:  Action and questing. Tolkien King

No I haven't

Jack Prince:  Couldn't we incorporate the buddhist definition of awareness into our daily life, so that we stay aware of the things around us.

Mindfulness

Sent at 11:08 PM on Friday

Jake von Slatt:  many cases of drivers following gps into bad situations

Sent at 11:09 PM on Friday

Jake von Slatt:  LOL! I got lost in Seattle a couple of days ago because I used my iPhone like a GPS.  The direction I walked was determined by the orientation it came out of my pocket! 

I was thinging of other things - distracted.

Willow Bloo:  hee

and thank you for keeping up chatting in here

the total effect will be better if I'm getting feedback in here as well

Jake von Slatt:  it's hard!

Willow Bloo:  I know

Jack Prince:  We should be, dare I say, trained at an early age to use what natural sense we have.

Sent at 11:13 PM on Friday

Willow Bloo:  yes!

Jake von Slatt:  hehehe

Sent at 11:14 PM on Friday

Jake von Slatt:  and success in the marketplace -evolution of the interface itself!

call dropped

Jack Prince:  yes

Willow Bloo:  sorry

Jake von Slatt:  Not your fault!  you on Windows?

Blame Bill Gates!

Willow Bloo:  I'm on a Mac

but the RAM needs to be replaced

Jack Prince:  damn steve

Jake von Slatt:  Linux here nooo problems!  XD

Willow Bloo:  fucking Steve

what kind of rapper name is Steve?

Jack Prince:  s t to the eve

Willow Bloo:  sorry, Flight of the Concords reference

Jake von Slatt:  dropped again - gonna go get a drink - brb

Willow Bloo:  arg

fixing

kk

Jack Prince:  Thanks

Willow Bloo:  Jake, let me know when you're back

Jack, sure thing

Jake von Slatt:  I'm back.

Willow Bloo:  wb

Sent at 11:22 PM on Friday

Willow Bloo:  any points?

Jake von Slatt:  getting back into the convo

Willow Bloo:  kk

Jack Prince:  Response first adrenalyn later

Sent at 11:25 PM on Friday

Willow Bloo:  i think part of the response is the adrenalin

Jack Prince:  I knew that I spelled that wrong. Hehe

Willow Bloo:  i can't spell for crap

Jake von Slatt:  Yes!

Sent at 11:27 PM on Friday

Jake von Slatt:  "Fight or flight" but so much of our world requires "chill" which our bodies don't know how to do.

Jack Prince:  A lot of times that is correct.

Willow Bloo:  yes!

Jake von Slatt:  result is stress.

Jack Prince:  Practice?

Jake von Slatt:  that basically right

Willow Bloo:  ok

Jake von Slatt:  or when someone give you a hand massage.

Jack Prince:  Desensitizing

Willow Bloo:  yes

Jack Prince:  But is that good or bad, in the long run?

Sent at 11:32 PM on Friday

Jack Prince:  Are they luring you in for something bad though?

Willow Bloo:  how much do you trust the source of data?

Jake von Slatt:  You been watch too many hollywood movies Jack!

Sent at 11:35 PM on Friday

Jake von Slatt:  No such thing as old dogs!

Sent at 11:36 PM on Friday

Sent at 11:36 PM on Friday

Willow Bloo:  1:18":00

Jack Prince:  Plenty of films. But I have seen a lot of ne'er-do-wells that try to sucker you.

Willow Bloo:  (sorry, reference)

Jake von Slatt:  Cultural difference i.e. Japanese UI design drives westerners crazy.

Jack Prince:  Seals and Crofts?

Nevermind

Willow Bloo: 

Jack Prince:  Bah!

Willow Bloo:  bah what?

Jack Prince:  I know that there is something else, but some of us like television more than interactivity.

In game format that is

Willow Bloo:  is good

I understand

it gives stories, things to talk about, etc

Jack Prince:  I like thinking of life as an RPG.

Willow Bloo:  we should talk about that sometime

Jake von Slatt:  ;or when we are playing LJ or Myspace 

 

Willow Bloo:  yes!

Jake von Slatt:  yes!

Jack Prince:  Myspace ads me Stephen King constantly!

It's sentient

Jake von Slatt:  The Goog is scary smart

Willow Bloo:  hee

Jake von Slatt:  it means that the understand people, not you in particular.

that how I wrote my college papers.

Willow Bloo:  hee

yes

is that your closing remark, Jake

?

Jake von Slatt:  hehe, I don't know that I really have one -

hehehe!

Willow Bloo:  noooo worries

Jack Prince:  Thanks for including me. Even this chat window is an amazing inclusion.

Willow Bloo:  yay!

Thank you so much for joining, Jack

it means a lot

Jake von Slatt:  OK: You have to make decision about what to trust, if you trust nothing your won't make progress.

Willow Bloo:  I'll post to the LJ and we can chat more

Jack Prince:  Academy?

Interesting

Jake von Slatt:  What you trust

Thanks everyone!

Sent at 11:52 PM on Friday

Willow Bloo:  Thank you Sean!

er

Jake

and Jack!

Jake von Slatt:  Sean

to you.

me:  Thank you

Willow Bloo:  well

Jake von Slatt is typing…

Jake von Slatt:  LOL!  this was fun but harder than I thought it would be!

Willow Bloo:  yeah

I think it'll be smoother next time

Libby says hello, and thanks you for staying on so long

Jack Prince:  Patience, I am glad all of you have it.

Jake von Slatt:  Hi Libby!

Jack Prince:  water time...

Jake von Slatt:  tough topic too, so many ways to go.

Sent at 11:57 PM on Friday

Willow Bloo:  kk

Red suggests Google Talk next time

as Skype was glitchy

Jack Prince:  Something new...

Willow Bloo:  and wonders how the chicken nuggets were

Jack Prince:  I am a former Luddite here.

Willow Bloo:  Jack's all about installing new programs!

Jake von Slatt:  I

ah, my KB went away. I ate chicken Shu-Mai, the kids had the nuggets

Sent at 12:00 AM on Saturday 

Willow Bloo:  aww

ok

alright, signing out

Jack Prince:  Later

Jake von Slatt:  g'bye!

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Jake von Slatt has left.


==See Also==
*[[Data_vs_sensory_perception]]
*[[Perception Minutes]]
[[Category:H%2B Elbow Meeting Notes]]