https://cyborganthropology.com/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Perception_ChatPerception Chat - Revision history2026-04-22T10:23:34ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.45.3https://cyborganthropology.com/index.php?title=Perception_Chat&diff=2967&oldid=prevWillowbl00 at 22:51, 30 January 20112011-01-30T22:51:42Z<p></p>
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</table>Willowbl00https://cyborganthropology.com/index.php?title=Perception_Chat&diff=2965&oldid=prevWillowbl00: Created page with 'Download the original attachment Jake von Slatt: dropped me Sent at 10:28 PM on Friday Willow Bloo: Jake? there you are Jake von Slatt: back online Willow Bloo: kk Sen…'2011-01-30T22:47:26Z<p>Created page with 'Download the original attachment Jake von Slatt: dropped me Sent at 10:28 PM on Friday Willow Bloo: Jake? there you are Jake von Slatt: back online Willow Bloo: kk Sen…'</p>
<p><b>New page</b></p><div>Download the original attachment<br />
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Jake von Slatt: dropped me<br />
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Sent at 10:28 PM on Friday<br />
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Willow Bloo: Jake?<br />
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there you are<br />
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Jake von Slatt: back online<br />
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Willow Bloo: kk<br />
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Sent at 10:29 PM on Friday<br />
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Willow Bloo has left.<br />
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Jake von Slatt: Never trust anything that can think for itself if you can't see where it keeps its brain.<br />
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Jack: Funny<br />
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Jake von Slatt: the web-trust disscussion reminded of that. HP is full of idealized interfaces.<br />
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so is StarTrek TNG.<br />
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comic sans! Argh!<br />
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Jake von Slatt: are you there willow?<br />
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Jack: She dropped out a while ago I believe<br />
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Sent at 10:49 PM on Friday<br />
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Willow Bloo has joined.<br />
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Willow Bloo: sweet!<br />
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Jake von Slatt: got it!<br />
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Willow Bloo has left.<br />
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Jake von Slatt: can you see the history?<br />
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Willow Bloo: no<br />
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please forward it when everything's done<br />
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Jake von Slatt: it's breif:<br />
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Jack Prince: Never trust anything that can think for itself if you can't see where it keeps its brain.<br />
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Jack Prince: Funny<br />
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Jack Prince: the web-trust disscussion reminded of that. HP is full of idealized interfaces.<br />
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so is StarTrek TNG.<br />
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comic sans! argh!<br />
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Sent at 10:46 PM on Friday<br />
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Jack Prince: are you there willow?<br />
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Willow Bloo: sweet thank you<br />
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Jack Prince: Perception versus imagination?<br />
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or a cross between the two<br />
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Willow Bloo: sort of<br />
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you fill in perceptions<br />
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Jack Prince: How do we avoid this?<br />
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Willow Bloo: ooh<br />
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Jake von Slatt: do you want to?<br />
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Jack Prince: Is it possible to do one hundred percent<br />
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Willow Bloo: I'll interject when I can<br />
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for my own reference, we're at the 34:45 mark<br />
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Jake von Slatt: doom vs. zork ?<br />
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Willow Bloo: don't know zork<br />
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relevent to discussion?<br />
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Jake von Slatt: a maze of twisty littla passages, all alike?<br />
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Willow Bloo: ah<br />
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Jack Prince: Having that helping hand all the time could make us complacent or lazy.<br />
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Jake von Slatt: zork is text based<br />
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Sent at 10:57 PM on Friday<br />
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Jake von Slatt: not quite what I was going for - I'm lagging the conversation. Zork is text based - it's all fill in by imagination.<br />
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ah good!<br />
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LOL!<br />
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Sent at 10:59 PM on Friday<br />
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Jake von Slatt: Katamari Damacy syndrome - want to roll up real things<br />
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Willow Bloo: yes. listening to soundtrack is dangerous in the car<br />
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Jake von Slatt: LOL<br />
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Jack Prince: I am so lost when it comes to games. One of my downfalls.<br />
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Willow Bloo: not a downfall<br />
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Jake von Slatt: I don't play them but gamers are interesting people.<br />
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My dad is a big gamer<br />
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Jack Prince: I was a controller thrower as a child. I never recovered, and it bled over into everyother game: board, card, etc.<br />
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Sent at 11:03 PM on Friday<br />
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Jake von Slatt: actually gamers a good case studies for this - they totally immerse themselves and I'll bet that effect their view of the world when the surface again.<br />
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Jack Prince: Books can have the same effect.<br />
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Jake von Slatt: totally<br />
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Willow Bloo: yes<br />
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romance novels are an experience, not good literature<br />
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Jake von Slatt: have you read Diana Gabaldon's Outlander? is both.<br />
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Jack Prince: Action and questing. Tolkien King<br />
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No I haven't<br />
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Jack Prince: Couldn't we incorporate the buddhist definition of awareness into our daily life, so that we stay aware of the things around us.<br />
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Mindfulness<br />
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Sent at 11:08 PM on Friday<br />
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Jake von Slatt: many cases of drivers following gps into bad situations<br />
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Sent at 11:09 PM on Friday<br />
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Jake von Slatt: LOL! I got lost in Seattle a couple of days ago because I used my iPhone like a GPS. The direction I walked was determined by the orientation it came out of my pocket! <br />
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I was thinging of other things - distracted.<br />
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Willow Bloo: hee<br />
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and thank you for keeping up chatting in here<br />
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the total effect will be better if I'm getting feedback in here as well<br />
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Jake von Slatt: it's hard!<br />
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Willow Bloo: I know<br />
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Jack Prince: We should be, dare I say, trained at an early age to use what natural sense we have.<br />
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Sent at 11:13 PM on Friday<br />
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Willow Bloo: yes!<br />
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Jake von Slatt: hehehe<br />
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Sent at 11:14 PM on Friday<br />
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Jake von Slatt: and success in the marketplace -evolution of the interface itself!<br />
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call dropped<br />
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Jack Prince: yes<br />
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Willow Bloo: sorry<br />
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Jake von Slatt: Not your fault! you on Windows?<br />
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Blame Bill Gates!<br />
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Willow Bloo: I'm on a Mac<br />
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but the RAM needs to be replaced<br />
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Jack Prince: damn steve<br />
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Jake von Slatt: Linux here nooo problems! XD<br />
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Willow Bloo: fucking Steve<br />
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what kind of rapper name is Steve?<br />
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Jack Prince: s t to the eve<br />
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Willow Bloo: sorry, Flight of the Concords reference<br />
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Jake von Slatt: dropped again - gonna go get a drink - brb<br />
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Willow Bloo: arg<br />
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fixing<br />
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kk<br />
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Jack Prince: Thanks<br />
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Willow Bloo: Jake, let me know when you're back<br />
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Jack, sure thing<br />
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Jake von Slatt: I'm back.<br />
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Willow Bloo: wb<br />
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Sent at 11:22 PM on Friday<br />
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Willow Bloo: any points?<br />
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Jake von Slatt: getting back into the convo<br />
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Willow Bloo: kk<br />
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Jack Prince: Response first adrenalyn later<br />
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Sent at 11:25 PM on Friday<br />
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Willow Bloo: i think part of the response is the adrenalin<br />
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Jack Prince: I knew that I spelled that wrong. Hehe<br />
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Willow Bloo: i can't spell for crap<br />
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Jake von Slatt: Yes!<br />
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Sent at 11:27 PM on Friday<br />
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Jake von Slatt: "Fight or flight" but so much of our world requires "chill" which our bodies don't know how to do.<br />
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Jack Prince: A lot of times that is correct.<br />
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Willow Bloo: yes!<br />
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Jake von Slatt: result is stress.<br />
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Jack Prince: Practice?<br />
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Jake von Slatt: that basically right<br />
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Willow Bloo: ok<br />
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Jake von Slatt: or when someone give you a hand massage.<br />
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Jack Prince: Desensitizing<br />
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Willow Bloo: yes<br />
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Jack Prince: But is that good or bad, in the long run?<br />
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Sent at 11:32 PM on Friday<br />
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Jack Prince: Are they luring you in for something bad though?<br />
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Willow Bloo: how much do you trust the source of data?<br />
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Jake von Slatt: You been watch too many hollywood movies Jack!<br />
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Sent at 11:35 PM on Friday<br />
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Jake von Slatt: No such thing as old dogs!<br />
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Sent at 11:36 PM on Friday<br />
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Sent at 11:36 PM on Friday<br />
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Willow Bloo: 1:18":00<br />
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Jack Prince: Plenty of films. But I have seen a lot of ne'er-do-wells that try to sucker you.<br />
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Willow Bloo: (sorry, reference)<br />
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Jake von Slatt: Cultural difference i.e. Japanese UI design drives westerners crazy.<br />
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Jack Prince: Seals and Crofts?<br />
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Nevermind<br />
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Willow Bloo: <br />
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Jack Prince: Bah!<br />
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Willow Bloo: bah what?<br />
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Jack Prince: I know that there is something else, but some of us like television more than interactivity.<br />
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In game format that is<br />
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Willow Bloo: is good<br />
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I understand<br />
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it gives stories, things to talk about, etc<br />
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Jack Prince: I like thinking of life as an RPG.<br />
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Willow Bloo: we should talk about that sometime<br />
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Jake von Slatt: ;or when we are playing LJ or Myspace <br />
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Willow Bloo: yes!<br />
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Jake von Slatt: yes!<br />
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Jack Prince: Myspace ads me Stephen King constantly!<br />
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It's sentient<br />
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Jake von Slatt: The Goog is scary smart<br />
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Willow Bloo: hee<br />
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Jake von Slatt: it means that the understand people, not you in particular.<br />
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that how I wrote my college papers.<br />
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Willow Bloo: hee<br />
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yes<br />
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is that your closing remark, Jake<br />
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Jake von Slatt: hehe, I don't know that I really have one -<br />
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hehehe!<br />
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Willow Bloo: noooo worries<br />
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Jack Prince: Thanks for including me. Even this chat window is an amazing inclusion.<br />
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Willow Bloo: yay!<br />
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Thank you so much for joining, Jack<br />
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it means a lot<br />
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Jake von Slatt: OK: You have to make decision about what to trust, if you trust nothing your won't make progress.<br />
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Willow Bloo: I'll post to the LJ and we can chat more<br />
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Jack Prince: Academy?<br />
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Interesting<br />
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Jake von Slatt: What you trust<br />
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Thanks everyone!<br />
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Sent at 11:52 PM on Friday<br />
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Willow Bloo: Thank you Sean!<br />
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er<br />
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Jake<br />
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and Jack!<br />
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Jake von Slatt: Sean<br />
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to you.<br />
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me: Thank you<br />
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Willow Bloo: well<br />
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Jake von Slatt is typing…<br />
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Jake von Slatt: LOL! this was fun but harder than I thought it would be!<br />
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Willow Bloo: yeah<br />
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I think it'll be smoother next time<br />
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Libby says hello, and thanks you for staying on so long<br />
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Jack Prince: Patience, I am glad all of you have it.<br />
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Jake von Slatt: Hi Libby!<br />
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Jack Prince: water time...<br />
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Jake von Slatt: tough topic too, so many ways to go.<br />
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Sent at 11:57 PM on Friday<br />
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Willow Bloo: kk<br />
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Red suggests Google Talk next time<br />
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as Skype was glitchy<br />
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Jack Prince: Something new...<br />
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Willow Bloo: and wonders how the chicken nuggets were<br />
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Jack Prince: I am a former Luddite here.<br />
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Willow Bloo: Jack's all about installing new programs!<br />
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Jake von Slatt: I<br />
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ah, my KB went away. I ate chicken Shu-Mai, the kids had the nuggets<br />
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Sent at 12:00 AM on Saturday <br />
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Willow Bloo: aww<br />
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ok<br />
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alright, signing out<br />
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Jack Prince: Later<br />
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Jake von Slatt: g'bye!<br />
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Willow Bloo has left.<br />
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==See Also==<br />
[[Data_vs_sensory_perception]]<br />
[[Perception Minutes]]<br />
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