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		<title>Caseorganic: Created page with &#039;&lt;pre&gt;Andrew:  hey! meeting with the second editor tomorrow and getting some revisions, is there anything in particular you want me to ask about?  me:  Great -- just the book in g…&#039;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;#039;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;Andrew:  hey! meeting with the second editor tomorrow and getting some revisions, is there anything in particular you want me to ask about?  me:  Great -- just the book in g…&amp;#039;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;Andrew:  hey! meeting with the second editor tomorrow and getting some revisions, is there anything in particular you want me to ask about?&lt;br /&gt;
 me:  Great -- just the book in general - is it interesting? would they read it? is there a tone present in any of the articles that they really like?&lt;br /&gt;
i&amp;#039;ll be busy all day tomorrow - then i&amp;#039;ll have some free time in the morning and evening friday&lt;br /&gt;
i&amp;#039;ll be in san fran sat and sunday, as well as friday - i have to go down to mountain view though on friday - we could go on the train down there&lt;br /&gt;
 Sent at 4:25 PM on Wednesday&lt;br /&gt;
 Andrew:  I have an engagement friday, so that prob won&amp;#039;t work, is there any time you&amp;#039;re going to be in SF for a few hours during the rest of the weekend?&lt;br /&gt;
 me:  yeah - sat and sunday are free and i&amp;#039;ll be in sf&lt;br /&gt;
 Andrew:  I think the editor mainly focused on the intro (he&amp;#039;s a professor and busy) but he definitely looked over the rest, so I&amp;#039;ll make sure to ask him about general tone.&lt;br /&gt;
 me:  Okay sounds good!&lt;br /&gt;
 Andrew:  awesome, let&amp;#039;s shoot for one of those days, my schedule is open so tell me a time and I should be able to make it&lt;br /&gt;
 me:  Okay sounds good. Maybe you can come by where I&amp;#039;m staying and we can work on the book in the sun.&lt;br /&gt;
Text will work best during my trip - to get in touch please use ## on the trip&lt;br /&gt;
 Sent at 4:30 PM on Wednesday&lt;br /&gt;
 Andrew:  sounds good! I ordered 10 cyborg books last week and have been pushing through them, I&amp;#039;m hoping to beef up some of our arguments with references to them, which will also place us within the scholarly discussion of cybernetics and cyborgs&lt;br /&gt;
I noticed we managed to write the book without a reference to the cyborg handbook, which is slightly sketchy...&lt;br /&gt;
 Sent at 4:33 PM on Wednesday&lt;br /&gt;
 me:  awesome! fantastic&lt;br /&gt;
hmm -- we wrote without ref to that book? strange&lt;br /&gt;
well - perhaps because we reference articles present in it&lt;br /&gt;
like the original cyborg paper&lt;br /&gt;
 Sent at 4:34 PM on Wednesday&lt;br /&gt;
 Andrew:  true, although the cyborg handbook is probably the closest anticedent to what we&amp;#039;re doing, we should probably discuss some of their theses&lt;br /&gt;
 me:  correct ok&lt;br /&gt;
we have until sept 15 now&lt;br /&gt;
for the book - so there is time&lt;br /&gt;
i emailed all the orderers&lt;br /&gt;
 Andrew:  awesome, is that when you&amp;#039;re sending it to rushkoff?&lt;br /&gt;
 Sent at 4:36 PM on Wednesday&lt;br /&gt;
 Andrew:  also, this editor suggested www.zonebooks.org as a possible publisher after the first print&lt;br /&gt;
 Sent at 4:38 PM on Wednesday&lt;br /&gt;
 Andrew:  it looks like their an art house subsidary of MIT press, which would be awesome&lt;br /&gt;
 Sent at 4:40 PM on Wednesday&lt;br /&gt;
 me:  Neat! Okay!&lt;br /&gt;
I&amp;#039;ll be sending it to Rushkoff at the end of August.&lt;br /&gt;
 Sent at 4:44 PM on Wednesday&lt;br /&gt;
 Andrew:  awesome. would you want to send an e-mail to them or at least draft one that makes the case for why they should take on the book (~500 presales, rushkoff, lecture tour, etc.) so we can get the ball rolling on that front?&lt;br /&gt;
 me:  Hmm - good idea. yes. but i can&amp;#039;t do one yet until i prepare for this speech i have to do tomorrow&lt;br /&gt;
how about we sit down and do that tomorrow?&lt;br /&gt;
 Andrew:  totally understand&lt;br /&gt;
 me:  i mean -- sunday or sayurday&lt;br /&gt;
 Andrew:  yeah I&amp;#039;m meeting with the editor @ 3, so before or after 6 should work well for me&lt;br /&gt;
ah cool&lt;br /&gt;
 me:  okay - sounds good lets do that then&lt;br /&gt;
are you meeting the editor tomorrow?&lt;br /&gt;
 Andrew:  yeah&lt;br /&gt;
 me:  ok -- hmmm&lt;br /&gt;
 Sent at 5:00 PM on Wednesday&lt;br /&gt;
 me:  i literally have no time to do that.&lt;br /&gt;
before then&lt;br /&gt;
but i can try&lt;br /&gt;
 Andrew:  oh no worries, this is just a good friend/mentor who offered to help with the editing, we can draft a formal proposal on sunday and then start sending them off next week&lt;br /&gt;
 me:  great ok&lt;br /&gt;
 Andrew:  he might have some good input as to what to say and such too that we can incorporate in on sunday&lt;br /&gt;
 me:  great!&lt;br /&gt;
 Sent at 5:04 PM on Wednesday&lt;br /&gt;
 me:  ok i wrote a draft&lt;br /&gt;
 Andrew:  awesome&lt;br /&gt;
 Sent at 5:06 PM on Wednesday&lt;br /&gt;
 me:  kay! see you this weekend. use ###&lt;br /&gt;
for texting&lt;br /&gt;
data is failing on my phone - and it is horrible&lt;br /&gt;
i feel cut off as a cyborg&lt;br /&gt;
signborg&lt;br /&gt;
sighborg*&lt;br /&gt;
 Andrew:  sounds good (should I save this as your normal #?&lt;br /&gt;
haha&lt;br /&gt;
 Sent at 5:10 PM on Wednesday&lt;br /&gt;
 Andrew:  yeah I was phoneless for a few days and i felt impotent, I&amp;#039;m glad to be back to my &amp;quot;normal&amp;quot; self&lt;br /&gt;
 Sent at 5:11 PM on Wednesday&lt;br /&gt;
 me:  Good! See you soon!&lt;br /&gt;
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